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Post by 88rsr Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:14 pm

im guessing its the atd engine code? if so my bora felt pretty lively and i only had it mapped, looks tidy that mate and should look good on tt comps, im gonna have to get rid of the ones ive got for our lasses everyones getting em Laughing
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Post by b47t0n Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:21 pm

yeah the baby atd engine its not bad to say its 100bhp but im used to the quick response and 160bhp from the pug Sad

so hopping for around the same or more from the golf 1day

ill get some pics with the comps on,need spraying look horrid in silver

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Post by RYAN Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:29 pm

Seen them today at college they look loads better with them wheels on Smile
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Post by 1250cinqturbo (ADMIN) Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:45 pm

PUG looked awsome Smile

i remember Ricky's when it was running about 14-`145bhp on just a map and it went really really well, loads of pull !! Smile

good luck on the map, heard you where getting it done

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Post by b47t0n Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:06 pm

RYBO wrote:Seen them today at college they look loads better with them wheels on Smile

Thanks the wheels do have alot more poke Smile

Will look better when in black or graphite grey

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Post by b47t0n Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:12 pm

1250cinqturbo (ADMIN) wrote:PUG looked awsome Smile

i remember Ricky's when it was running about 14-`145bhp on just a map and it went really really well, loads of pull !! Smile

good luck on the map, heard you where getting it done

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Thanks would be happy to see 145bhp along as it matches the pug for power I'll be happy only difference with pug it was a stage2 remap

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Post by 1250cinqturbo (ADMIN) Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:14 pm

you'll probably find the 1.9 engine will developed slightly more torque than the PSA 1600 engine does naturally when mapped so you should be well happy with the results but then the Golf is heavy compared to the PUG.....

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Post by b47t0n Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:22 pm

Yeah there is the pros and cons on weight but in the other had the golf handles brilliantly where as the pug was like a boat

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Post by RYAN Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:34 pm

Iv'e seen the torsion bar in the back of the PUG has the rear torsion bar axle gone Question
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Post by b47t0n Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:40 pm

Yeah for the 2nd time Sad where was you lol ?

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Post by RYAN Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:56 pm

I was walking past the car when the boot was up and saw it Very Happy
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Post by 88rsr Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:58 pm

yeah i think you'll enjoy it with a map on, you'll have to look into the clutch aswell as the standard one cant handle loads more power, mine was alright for about a year on the map right up until i sold it, dont know how long it will have carried on after but as said mine was probably only around 140bhp and not a massive amount of torque
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Post by Mitch Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:17 pm

What do you get from fitting the 1.8t pipe ?
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Post by 88rsr Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:57 pm

i know someone else wondering the same, it looks larger so probably allows better flow, i would have thought your front mount was a complete kit mitch so came with all the ally piping and therefore didnt use the standard pancake pipe?? i cant remember when i was having a nosey at it

but yeah id be interested too, but my guess it that its simply because its larger compared with standard
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Post by 1250cinqturbo (ADMIN) Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:20 pm

as with most boost pipe modifications its the lag that gets affected the most, pipework that reduces along the path will cause a little back pressure that the turbo has to fight against but actual power is often not affected unless it a big restriction or has harsh drops in size with flat edges etc.....

people often change the lower boost pipe on the Mondeo ST tdci because it reduces to a small 1.5" for no reason, by swapping it to a larger 2" pipe the turbo finds it easier to spool up giving better low end torque and throttle response Smile

boost pipe sizing gets talked about a hell of alot in tuning circles and there is alot of opinions on the benefits etc....

for example the diameter of the turbo's exducer is only small, often only 1.5", if you maintain this 1.5" throughout the entire system with smooth flowing mandrel bends etc then the spool up will be rapid and low end torque from the engine be be improved along with the fact that the air travelling thought the pipe itself will be flowing fast, but some where along with increasing power and airflow the line small pipe diameters will become a restriction even though they are the same as the turbo's exduser... iirc this is partly down the the increased friction of air passing very fast through a small diameter, if the pipe is then opened up the airflow slows down which reduces the friction and thus increases flow....etc etc

Smile sorry i like stuff like this and ive felt what differences piping can make to a car with the many routes/sizes of my own boost circuit so its worth getting right

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Post by Mitch Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:49 pm

Well sorry to seem stupid but i bought all my intercooler and pipe work separate so I'm running oem pipes apart from the obvious red silicone ones so i don't think i changed that pancake pipe still unsure lol
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Post by b47t0n Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:04 am

It Just felt abit more free that's all nothing major or big and as above the old 1 just looked soo small and plastic rubbish lol got the 1.8t cheap so I thought why not.

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Post by Mitch Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:21 am

Yeah tt comps welcome to the club lol
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Post by b47t0n Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:14 am

Thanks lol they just need a new colour scheme now either black or some sort of graphite grey :/

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Post by b47t0n Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:07 pm

Soo bad news

Drove down to r-tech for the remap yestoday ,got the car on the rollers ran the car on vag com and it decided to over boost again (sticky vains) over boosting to 20psi

So the mapper refused to map it Sad

So the options

New turbo and remapp £700 around 160bhp max due to injectors limiting power


Recon my turbo and remap £500 and 145bhp max due to turbo limiting power

Sell up buy pd 130 170bhp with remap

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Post by 1250cinqturbo (ADMIN) Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:11 pm

sorry to hear it mate, if it where me id partly strip and clean the turbine housing/veins out or send the turbo of to midland turbo's, have it re-conned and maybe even have the turbo turned into a hybrid.

Either way a recon at Midlands is typically £180 plus VAT.

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Post by b47t0n Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:21 pm

Yeah see where your coming from only thing is the I know I'll want more than 145bhp

So then that means bigger turbo parts and fittings and bigger injectors which are a Bomb And again fitting and another remap lol

So at the minute I'm pushed towards pd130 and get 170bhp with just a remap

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Post by 1250cinqturbo (ADMIN) Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:22 pm

i agree mate, best way

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Post by b47t0n Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:41 pm

Soo need to get saving again now lol Sad

Just some pd130s I'm keeping an eye out for
Seat Leon
Golf mk4
Seat Ibiza

Ideally looking for another mk4 due to been able to swap the good bits over Smile

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Post by Mitch Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:28 pm

IBIZA ! But what can i say I'm biased Smile
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