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Post by cinquecento-palmer Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:59 pm

hi i drive a standard fiat cinquecento and i am looking to make it a pocket rocket any suggestions would be greatful thanks
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Post by Mario Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:32 pm

hi and welcome mate

choice one
1108cc turbo and you should see (with alot of money) around 110bhp

choice two
1242cc 8v turbo again alot of money but jays runs 160+bhp and will kill almost anything

choice three
1242cc 16v N/A will cost you less than a grand and you should see 100bhp+ and one very quick little car

choice four
1388cc 16v N/A once fitted in standard spec will be 100bhp and will fly but its a very modern engine so you will be looking at alot of wiring work

personally i'd say go for option 3 as a well sorted 1242 16v in a cento will be a force to recond with plus its the cheapest to get hold of and prob the least hassle way of making a cento go quick
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Post by cinquecento-palmer Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:10 pm

thanks very much for the advice i am just wondering is the 1242 a straight swap with the 1108?
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Post by Mario Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:04 pm

1242 8v spi out of the punto 60 is a direct swap
1242 8v mpi needs a couple of vernt small mods but basically a straight swap
1242 16v mpi again needs a couple of small alterations but is pretty much straight in
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Post by Mario Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:54 pm

88rsr wrote:welcome, man its like fiat city on here haha Cool

considering the VAG invasion last week i think its even numbers at the mo lmao
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Post by cinquecento-palmer Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:58 pm

thanks very much for the info. another question my mate owns a 1.3 starlet gt turbo running about 160 bhp and it has a little bit of a problem keeping the power down as it just keeps spinning up is the cinquecento the same especially for your little rocket jason?

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Post by cinquecento-palmer Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:00 pm

and mario the cinquecento in your picture looks good i am getting my wheels spraid black tomorrow but they are just the standard sporting wheels are yours the abarth punto ones?
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Post by Mario Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:16 pm

RIP albert

unfortinatly that cinq is dead but the wheels were the punto GT wheels sprayed black and they did look amazing lol 14's on a cinq look really good and the PGT wheels gave it such a mean look

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Post by cinquecento-palmer Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:48 pm

Albert nice name i also own a set of the seicento sporting wheels and they look quite good as well the black bonnet and front bumper is a nice touch aswel
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Post by Mario Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:14 pm

it ended up that colour cos when i crashed it i only had silver panels and a tin of black paint and then when i fitted the 1242 mpi the bonnet wouldn't shut so rather than make a smaller spacer plate i just cut a hole in the bonnet so out came the trusty black paint lol i like to be different lol

the good thing is with a cinq is you can do things like that and it still looks good because it just makes it look really serious and hardcore lol
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Post by cinquecento-palmer Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:45 pm

yer defo looks mean i have just had mine lowered and she loves the lanes she is like a little go cart
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Post by cinquecento-palmer Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:12 am

with the 1242 8v spi out of the punto 60 do you keep the cinquecento gearbox or do you put the punto one in?
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Post by Mario Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:05 am

keep everything apart from the block and the inlet and TB also try and get a later P60 engine as the have the hot cam in that was used in the P75mpi which is good for a few ponies also try to get a hold of a P75 exhaust manifold and down pipe as its a 4-2-1 and again sees a few ponies, if you cant get a hold of the exhaust manifold i have one but it will need modifying to fit as its currently designed to fit on to my custom exhaust i made which is full de-cat and 2inch all the way back lol
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Post by cinquecento-palmer Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:58 am

keep everything?
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Post by Mario Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:42 pm

yeah use the cinq ecu, loom, gearbox, drive shafts, airbox, coil packs (cos you know they are good) literally only swap the block and inlet lol cos they are basically identical engines apart from one is 1108cc and the other is 1242cc but apart from that they are the same lol oh and the TB on the 1242 is bigger too

the easiest way to gain 16bhp over a standard 1108 is to fit a 1242spi engine from the later P60 (R reg onwards iirc) then fit a 4-2-1 exhaust off a P75 and a bigger 36mm TB off a peugeot 1.4 and you should in theory be somewhere close to 75-80bhp and a mountain of tourque
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Post by cinquecento-palmer Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:07 pm

TB?
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Post by RYAN Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:21 pm

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Post by cinquecento-palmer Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:34 pm

thanks very much lol
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Post by 1250cinqturbo (ADMIN) Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:13 pm

cinquecento-palmer wrote:thanks very much for the info. another question my mate owns a 1.3 starlet gt turbo running about 160 bhp and it has a little bit of a problem keeping the power down as it just keeps spinning up is the cinquecento the same especially for your little rocket jason?


its abit of a handful at times yes haha, the cinquecento is both lighter and shorter geared than the Starlet meaning more torque at the wheels so it can spin massively at times.....

I took a friend out in it today and turned of the the water methanol injection of and set the boost controller to low boost and it still managed to spin the wheels in third gear up hill with these slippy conditions as soon as the turbo spiked up over 8psi, it not rare for it to spin in fourth and on the odd occasion even 5th but with the right driving style and half throttle you can make the big turbo work for you and then it will put the power down and still feel rapid at light throttle Smile

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Post by cinquecento-palmer Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:33 pm

thanks jason it sounds like a bullet

thanks Graham
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Post by danb87 Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:26 pm

cinquecento-palmer wrote:thanks very much for the info. another question my mate owns a 1.3 starlet gt turbo running about 160 bhp and it has a little bit of a problem keeping the power down as it just keeps spinning up is the cinquecento the same especially for your little rocket jason?


palmer my starlets runnin 220 hp at the wheels. 160 lol piss taker.

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